Arguing with God

Thomas Hobbes blamed the English Civil War on “ghostly authority.”  Where the Bible is unclear, the crowd of simple believers will follow the most charismatic preacher.  This means that religious wars are both inevitable, and impossible to end.  Hobbes was born in 1588 — right in the middle of the Period of the Wars of Religion — and lived another 30 years after the Peace of Westphalia, so he knew what he was talking about.

There’s simply no possible compromise with an opponent who thinks you’re in league with the Devil, if not the literal Antichrist.  Nothing Charles I could have done would’ve satisfied the Puritans sufficient for him to remain their king, because even if he did everything they demanded — divorced his Catholic wife, basically turned the Church of England into the Presbyterian Kirk, gave up all but his personal feudal revenues — the very act of doing these things would’ve made his “kingship” meaningless.  No English king can turn over one of the fundamental duties of state to Scottish churchwardens and still remain King of England.

This was the basic problem confronting all the combatants in the various Wars of Religion, from the Peasants’ War to the Thirty Years’ War.  No matter what the guy with the crown does, he’s illegitimate.  It took an entirely new theory of state power, developed over more than 100 years, to finally end the Wars of Religion.  In case your Early Modern history is a little rusty, that was the Peace of Westphalia (1648), and it established the modern(-ish) sovereign nation-state.  The king is the king because he’s the king; matters of religious conscience are not a sufficient casus belli between states, or for rebellion within states.  Cuius regio, eius religio, as the Peace of Augsburg put it — the prince’s religion is the official state religion — and if you don’t like it, move.  But since the Peace of Westphalia also made heads of state responsible for the actions of their nationals abroad, the prince had a vested interest in keeping private consciences private.

I wrote “a new theory of state power,” and it’s true, the philosophy behind the Peace of Westphalia was new, but that’s not what ended the violence.  What did, quite simply, was exhaustion.  The Thirty Years’ War was as devastating to “Germany” as World War I, and all combatants in all nations took tremendous losses.  Sweden’s king died in combat, France got huge swathes of its territory devastated (after entering the war on the Protestant side), Spain’s power was permanently broken, and the Holy Roman Empire all but ceased to exist.  In short, it was one of the most devastating conflicts in human history.  They didn’t stop fighting because they finally wised up; they stopped fighting because they were physically incapable of continuing.

The problem, though, is that the idea of cuius regio, eius religio was never repudiated.  European powers didn’t fight each other over different strands of Christianity anymore, but they replaced it with an even more virulent religion, nationalism.  It took two devastating wars to finally put that iteration of religious mania to bed, but since bad ideas never die, virulent nationalism was replaced by cancerous globohomoism.  Cuius regio, eius religio, and since every member of every Western government that matters is a globohomo fanatic…

I trust y’all see where this is going.  Just as there was no arguing with a Puritan about Calvinism, or a Nazi with lebensraum, or a Communist about History (in practice, about the inevitable triumph of the Soviet Union), so there’s no arguing with a globohomoist about the poz.  And like Calvinists, and Nazis, and Soviets, they won’t stop until they’re ground down to utter exhaustion, because they can’t stop.  There’s no possible compromise with Antichrist.

Things are moving very fast now.  There’s no violence at the big 2nd Amendment rally in Virginia yet, but the day’s not over.  And even if it ends peacefully, God willing, the next one won’t…. and there will be a next one, of course.  There’s no chance in hell that the globohomoists will wise up and learn the lessons of history, because for the fanatic, there is no history.  Nor is there any such thing as an honest mistake.  The past, all of it, is one long catalog of freely chosen error, and the only lesson worth learning from it is that your enemies must be exterminated, lest their errors persist to corrupt a new generation.

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5 thoughts on “Arguing with God

  1. Pickle Rick

    That’s what’s going to tell in this thing. Normie boomer thinks that this stunt in Richmond got the message across to those wussy libtards and that they won today, and nothing could be farther from the truth.

    The new lords of Virginia don’t give a shit about peaceful nonviolent protest. They’re simply going to ignore the plebs, who wouldn’t ever think of breaking the law, much less storming the State House, rattlesnake flag in hand. After all, if the local yokels won’t enforce the New Laws, then lefty will find someone who will.

    As I’ve said before, lefty isn’t afraid of us anymore. And until we are feared again, we have no rights that they will respect.

    This isn’t over by a long shot.

    1. Publius

      Of course it’s not. But when the New Covenanters pass their garbage anyway, the fun truly begins.

      Noncompliance with the law is on the table. That may seem like nothing, and on the tactical level it may be. But it’s the beginning of everything. Noncompliance was sufficient to shred Prohibition, and they enacted a ConAm to shove that in.

      Refusal to put stamps on documents led in a very short time to riots and open revolt/rebellion.

      Interesting times.

      1. Pickle Rick

        Yes, it took 1765 to 1775 to get the shot flying, and in between was a lot of legal protest. But we’re far from the people who accomplished that. We’ve got no Sons of Liberty, and no Washington, Hancock, or Patrick Henry, and no brace of Adamses.

        We’ve got a President who tweets…

  2. WOPR

    They’re already beginning to roll over on transgenders. Glenn Reynolds had a post yesterday praising some transgender guy (who he identified as a she) who was at the rally and is running as a senator to the CA assembly. Glenn even felt the need to respond to one comment about how the mentally ill man fights antifa. I doubt Glenn would praise some dissident right guy who did the same thing.

  3. MBlanc46

    I suspect that anyone who didn’t fundamentally agree with your conclusion who happened to stumble in here would runaway screaming. I’ve known these people since grad school days (late sixties, early seventies). They make it immediately clear that their only goal is to run other peoples’ lives. It’s nothing to do with facts. It’s nothing to do with arguments. Stay away from them until you have the strength to defeat them. When they control the state, as they do, keep your head down and your powder dry.

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